For decades, Philip Howard has been sounding the alarm: our government is broken, and tinkering around the edges won’t work. We need a new operating system. How did it break? What do both parties get wrong? And what will it take to revive the American spirit?

In this conversation with host Joe Lonsdale, Philip explains how law began to supplant human judgment, politicians stopped making hard decisions, and governance was outsourced to an instruction manual.

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